Are you still on Facebook? Did you know that they’ve changed their terms of service? Bascially, the new TOS say that they own you. Forever.
You hereby grant Facebook an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide license (with the right to sublicense) to (a) use, copy, publish, stream, store, retain, publicly perform or display, transmit, scan, reformat, modify, edit, frame, translate, excerpt, adapt, create derivative works and distribute (through multiple tiers), any User Content you (i) Post on or in connection with the Facebook Service or the promotion thereof subject only to your privacy settings or (ii) enable a user to Post, including by offering a Share Link on your website and (b) to use your name, likeness and image for any purpose, including commercial or advertising, each of (a) and (b) on or in connection with the Facebook Service or the promotion thereof.
Well, now…makes me glad I forsook them! So, now…are you STILL on Facebook?
Update: Looks like Facebook have returned to their original TOS, bowing in to public pressure (thanks Joe!):
Terms of Use Update
Over the past few days, we have received a lot of feedback about the new terms we posted two weeks ago. Because of this response, we have decided to return to our previous Terms of Use while we resolve the issues that people have raised.
If you want to share your thoughts on what should be in the new terms, check out our group Facebook Bill of Rights and Responsibilities.
[Link: Consumerist - Facebook's new TOS: "We can do anything we want with your content. Forever."]
That looks vaguely similar to Google’s original TOS when they launched Chrome beta.
@Deems: Really? Do you have a quote handy somewhere?
All your base…
if it’s not an attack on xbox 360 online it’s an attack on facebook, fayyaad – when will this madness end!!
on another note, i think as soon as you give details to anyone on the internet you give up your life to them – it’s just a matter of how much you are willing to give. people can find me, but i try not put any much info about me, just my thoughts
and enough thoughts to create a physcolical profile 
@fayyaad – something similar to – this
Hey, Xbox requires you to pay to access online functionality. That’s low, when you consider that the PS3, Wii, DS, and PSP all require no such fee. Anyhow…this isn’t a console thread
It’s a Facebook thread.
It still boggles my mind how DRACONIAN these terms of service are. It literally means that anything you post on Facebook is also theirs. You wrote a poem on Facebook? Cool, they can publish it without consulting you. You put a picture up there? Great, they can use it any way they want without consulting you.
Basically, The Cake Is A Lie.
@Deems: And it also looks like they changed their TOS when the outcry started
Still, this is why I’d rather stick with Firefox, thank you!
The terms of service for Utter Insanity require complete mental breakdown. I quote from the latest ToS: “For when sane just isn’t good enough”.
@Fayyaad: Admittingly, never been to pushed on sticking any photos of mine on Facebook or anything else. People can photoshop anything with anything and all they need is the right angle!
@fayyaad – actually Chrome’s quite harmless and currently, IMHO, the best browser out there, it’s quick, it’s stable and it renders most sites quite well. As for the TOS scare – Google said it was a generic TOS copy paste error and they fixed it shortly thereafter. Give it time and FB’s TOS will be changed too – they can’t afford to lose users.
@post – Eish. Be afraid. Be very Afraid! – 1984 come tru.
@Deems & Fayyaad – Try Opera – fastest gun in the browser war.
@CybaDelic: At last – an Opera fan!!! Wahoo… hey, you’re not messing now are you, I don’t think I could handle that *awaits nervously*
You Opera people act exactly like a frightened minority, and rabidly back your ideologies to the point of being weird about it. You’re funny
@Cybadelic: Speed isn’t always everything, you know. Mere There’s a damn good reason I’m still with Firefox. I tried Opera, I tried Chrome, I tried Safari, and I even tried SeaMonkey. And maybe it’s just becoz I’m weird. I didn’t like any of them, mostly because they don’t let me do what I want to with them! Always this stern “No! No! I can’t let you customize me in that way!”
@Deems: Yea, I know Chrome is harmless. But Chrome doesn’t give me powerful tab control, mouse gestures, adblock, greasemonkey, and noscript. Pass, thanks.
@Tim: Yes, you’re quite correct
And I don’t see enough mental breakdowns happening! You’re all in direct violation of the Utter Insanity TOS!! 
@fayyaad – you visiting dodgy sites that ou need greasemonkey and noscript to strip potentially harmless stuff out?
From a performance, memory management and stability point of view I think Chrome beats other browsers hands down. IE freezes and dies a horrible death at just over 120MB of memory usage, and Mozilla often uses a tonn of memory (and even after you’ve closed it down) yet it’s much more stable than IE. But I digress, this isn’t a browser thread 
@CybaDelic – haven’t used Opera on a desktop since their very first version many years ago. However, I did download their mini browser on my Samsung D900 and needless to say I was impressed.
@all – like mentioned on Cherryflava, it’s a free service, there’s no such thing as a free service so you’ll end up paying by giving up your rights to stuff you post.
@Deems: Yes I do. Sometimes, you need a crack, and for legitimate reasons. Can’t think of a legit reason? Try this one: You buy software, so it’s legal. The software company gets bought out, and the activation servers get taken offline. You now can’t install and run said software, despite it being legal. Guess what recourse I have?
Anyhow…Chrome. Lack of adblock is the BIGGEST problem. Tried reading IOL once on Chrome and couldn’t find the article for all the ads
I use noscript to disable tracking and mining cookies, cos I’m a bit of a twat that way. And greasemonkey is just a good extension when you want more out of sites. I have a greasemonkey script, for example, that along with all my google searches, I also get a preview of images, wikipedia entries, and so on. One stop searching! Fine, I give Chrome points for its memory footprint, but in usability terms–and that’s where these things count, remember that fact, folks!–it loses points for not being very friendly to power users. I like to customize the living hell out of my software, and not be treated like an idiot who doesn’t know the left mouse button from the right. Call me spoiled, but I like this little thing called “choice”. So I ditched Chrome, ditched Microsoft (Linux FTW! Try to perform any power user tasks in Vista, for example, and it raps you over the knuckles. You literally have to beat the frakking OS into submission before it lets you do anything useful, and I don’t have the patience for it), and they can all go sit tightly on a stake and spin for all I care 
Anyone else going to try and convince me otherwise?
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@fayaad – all good points there mate, can’t argue with any of them
As for the issue with IOL and the need to read stuff without intrusive ads, that’s why I use my Google Reader
There are actually very few sites that I actually visit, mostly use the reader to get up to date with various issues in the news.
Give them till around May (apparently) and Chrome will become more extensible and customisable, just the way you like it.
Vista – bleh, wouldn’t touch it with a ten-foot barge pole. Still need to try out Windows 7 which is lying at home. I’ve got Ubuntu too but haven’t had a chance to fully play with it yet – the wife and kids would probably smack me if I installed something on the home PC that they didn’t know how to use – or had appropriate applications for
Youz all teh suxorz. Lynx teh 0nli br0ws3r wurthwh1le.
@Fayyaad: Put ‘em up… fisty cuffs time *grunt grunt*
For me and Opera – customization to that level really isn’t nessacary. I like to be able to browse quickly and efficiently Opera gives me that 
I don’t turn anything off while browsing. If there are sites with annoying things on it then I just don’t go there – granted I don’t come across too many of those sites 
@All: Wasn’t this about facebook somewhere?
@Tim – lol, but surfin’ so boring without pretty pictures
@Joseph, dontcha just love how a thread can become off-topic so quickly
@Joseph – Firefox has spell-checking, which is sometimes nessacary
@tim: Neces-scary?
So…who’s in agreement that Facebook sucks teh ass0rz?
@Joseph – Yes – I like Opera. I have it installed and I use it. I do use FF as my main browser. Opera is used mainly for the more finniky websites and for when speed is a factor.
I have it on my phone too.
@fayyaad. Hate the sin, not the sinner
– The T&C sUx teh axx0rz not FB itself.
@Cybadelic: now that’s an interesting distinction. You’re saying that ToS does not a product make? Surely by accepting crappy ToS, you’re accepting a crappy product, crippled by aforementioned crappy ToS? Or am I mistaken?
Mind you, my hatred of Facebook isn’t limited to the ToS, else I would have still been with them till very recently. I quit them almost a year ago, and even then I couldn’t stand the whole thing. Every day I was getting bugged with stupidity in extreme forms–join this ineffectual group, install that stupid app that doesn’t have any bearing on reality, poke this one, fight that one, AARGH! It started getting to a point where I was thinking “will everyone just FRACK OFF! All I want to do is keep up with friends, not play effing pirates and ninjas or quaff idiotic virtual alcohol!”
With apologies to Karl Marx: Facebook is the new opiate of the masses.
All I read is … ‘oooh my browser’s penis is bigger than your browser’s penis’
@fayyaad – on the Karl Marx quote-mashup, I’d probably replace “Facebook” with “social-networking”
@fecknusername: you’re right, of course. At the heart of it, it’s all just one big pissing contest. Mind you, when we’re talking IE, then it’s the only one being pissed on, but it’s STILL a pissing contest. That’s what makes these discussions so much fun
@Deems: You’re probably right…it applies to Twitter and a dozen other forms of social networking as well. Not that these sites don’t have their uses, because they do, but the signal:noise is just waaay too huge!
@fecknusername – IE is such a girl, she doesn’t have a penis (guess that’s why she gets pissed on hey @fayyaad?)
@fayyaad – Twitter is useful to get realtime feedback from people who are online but due to big-bad-brother-corporate policies don’t have access to something as simple as Skype/GTalk and to prevent the spam and noise my Twitter account is not public.
Facebook update!
Terms of Use Update
Over the past few days, we have received a lot of feedback about the new terms we posted two weeks ago. Because of this response, we have decided to return to our previous Terms of Use while we resolve the issues that people have raised.
If you want to share your thoughts on what should be in the new terms, check out our group Facebook Bill of Rights and Responsibilities.
Too late. I already deactivated my account.
Hehe, and I’m STILL not going back to them
For all the reasons outlined above!
@Tim – awww man now I won’t make my 1,00,000 friend, I wanted to add you